When should criminal injuries compensation be awarded?

Tokis · 11-13-2009 17:00

Toddler-attack boy wins pay-out

"A mother has won the right to compensation for her son, two years after he was hit 11 times by another three-year-old boy with a car jack.

Jay Jones, of Wirral, Merseyside, needed stitches after he was attacked while the boys were alone in a car.

The Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority twice refused to pay out as it disputed whether a three-year-old could be guilty of a crime of violence.

But the Tribunals Service has ruled in favour of Jay's mother, Renai Williams.

A judge ruled the CICA must award the full amount to Jay, which could be up to £27,000, and agreed with his solicitors that the age of his attacker was irrelevant to the case.";

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/mers … 357870.stm

Oh god, i bet now we'll be seeing loads of parents trying to get "compensation" for their precious little darlings now because they got injured or bullied by other kids in school etc.

A spokesman for the CICA (The Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority) said it did not comment on individual cases, but said it made "payments to victims of violent crime as a gesture of public sympathy."

If a child is too young to be charged with a crime, how can he cause "criminal injuries"?
Ridiculous.
Secondly, why were the toddlers left alone in a car together? How did they get hold of the car jack? Where were the parents? IMO its the parents fault.

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Immortalbuttercup · 11-13-2009 17:06

I personal dont believe a small child could need compenstation, like you said where were the parents, they are to blame for leaving her child to get into that situtation.

If the child was left with permenant issues then prehapes so, but as it stands all I can see it as is a mother seeing an easy way to make cash of a bad situtation her child went through.

Sasla · 11-13-2009 17:08

I don't think there is any need to pay compensation when a 3 year old hits another child. Keep an eye on your child, don't leave them in a car alone!

It really is riddiculuos that people can get money out of everything these days.

Tokis · 11-13-2009 17:15

^ I agree, these authorities throw cash around like it grows on tree's- its totally wrong.

KrissieLee · 11-13-2009 17:33

We have a 3 year old here and I could never imagine just leaving him alone in the car... ANYTHING could happen, whether it be an injury or even abduction! The lady shouldn't get a dime and live with the fact that better choices need to be made to avoid such ridiculous accidents.

Expired · 11-13-2009 17:35

My mother sometime left me in the car with other kids. It's not like a three year old can't open a car door. I don't think it's horrible for a mum to leave children in a car if she knows she's going to be back quickly

Ceres · 11-13-2009 18:30

When it's a kid that young I think the parent of the kid who hit the other kid should pay up. The kid didn't know right from wrong yet, which is a parent's responsibility. When they get old enough to be tried as a juvenile then I'd see seeking compensation elsewhere. Especially if the family of the criminal can't afford it.

MercyRose143 · 11-13-2009 18:53

This is just ridiculous, compensation for a toddler fight...I have heard it all now! I have to agree why on earth were they left alone.

Expired wrote:
My mother sometime left me in the car with other kids. It's not like a three year old can't open a car door. I don't think it's horrible for a mum to leave children in a car if she knows she's going to be back quickly

Expired yikes this post scares me a little!

Sunbunny · 11-13-2009 18:53

i dont think its a good idea to leave small kids alone anywhere that they could be harmed..

i do wonder why the kids werent in car seats, how they got the tire iron, how such a small kid could wield the tire iron forcefully enough to have done significant damage to the other kid.. and how long they were left in there..

Bebe92583 · 11-13-2009 22:52

Where on earth were the parents.?? or other responsible adult?.

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Typhani · 11-15-2009 15:54

Tokis wrote:
If a child is too young to be charged with a crime, how can he cause "criminal injuries"?
Ridiculous.
Secondly, why were the toddlers left alone in a car together? How did they get hold of the car jack? Where were the parents? IMO its the parents fault.

Um surely that's the point. They are not suing the 3 year old child, they are suing whoever was responsible for him at the time, at least I assume so, though it isn't really made clear.

The offending child has got a great life of crime ahead of him I'm sure...this is how it all starts sad

Tokis · 11-15-2009 16:16

Typhani wrote:
Tokis wrote:
If a child is too young to be charged with a crime, how can he cause "criminal injuries"?
Ridiculous.
Secondly, why were the toddlers left alone in a car together? How did they get hold of the car jack? Where were the parents? IMO its the parents fault.
Um surely that's the point. They are not suing the 3 year old child, they are suing whoever was responsible for him at the time, at least I assume so, though it isn't really made clear.

The offending child has got a great life of crime ahead of him I'm sure...this is how it all starts

No they aren't sueing anyone in this case, they are actually handing over tax payers money as a "gesture of sympathy".

There are so many things wrong with this case;

1. This is not a case of crime, thus it should not be handled by a criminal violence compensation authority.
2. As the tax payer, i had no say in this "gesture of sympathy" and i do not agree with it- not only is the mother being given £27,000's, but no doubt the legal fee's for the last few years will also be paid off with tax payers money on top of this. If the child has health issues i have no problem with the NHS paying for those, but i do not agree with giving money purely as compensation (in an incident that does not qualify for compensation).
3. If anything it was the parents fault and not the other 3 year old childs fault.

Typhani · 11-15-2009 17:00

Huh okay that makes no sense then.

I would really like to know who was supposed to be responsible for both kids at the time. Presumably the driver of the car.

It does seem very wrong that this is being paid for by the taxpayer.

Bebe92583 · 11-15-2009 22:45

Typhani wrote:
Huh okay that makes no sense then.

I would really like to know who was supposed to be responsible for both kids at the time. Presumably the driver of the car.

It does seem very wrong that this is being paid for by the taxpayer.

Nothing like collecting money for being an irresponsible,negligent adult. no money shoud be handed out here in my opinion but a warrant for the adult's arrest should be for child endangerment. in my humble opinion.

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